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Reply #1 - 10. Dec 2011 at 11:22
 
Excellent! I'm glad they finally finished it. And I'm nothing short of extatic about Chris playing the drums. Let's hope they'll tour it!
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This sounds right up my street. Hoping for Vinyl please.  Smiley
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This sounds right up my street. Hoping for Vinyl please.  Smiley

 
Same here. Had no idea about this project, sounds interesting and exciting.
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Reply #4 - 10. Dec 2011 at 14:24
 
Yeah!!!!
 
hope for a taste/sample soon.
 
Quote from 4ctmam on 10. Dec 2011 at 11:22:
Excellent! I'm glad they finally finished it. And I'm nothing short of extatic about Chris playing the drums. Let's hope they'll tour it!

 
Not only Chris Maitland, but they have Danny Thompson, Arran Ahmun (John Martyn) and  the string arrangements from Dave Gregory!!!!! This is a sweet surprise.  
 
Any idea why they are waiting until the end of February,2012 to release?
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Reply #5 - 10. Dec 2011 at 17:19
 
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Not only Chris Maitland, but they have Danny Thompson, Arran Ahmun (John Martyn) and  the string arrangements from Dave Gregory!!!!! This is a sweet surprise.

 
Sure, it's a great team altogether. But what I meant was that it's very special since it's the first time in over a decade that Richard and Chris worked on some music together. I just think it's great that Richard decided to invite Chris to participate in this project.
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Reply #6 - 10. Dec 2011 at 23:53
 
Quote from brian_sever34 on 10. Dec 2011 at 14:24:
Yeah!!!!

hope for a taste/sample soon.

Quote from 4ctmam on 10. Dec 2011 at 11:22:
Excellent! I'm glad they finally finished it. And I'm nothing short of extatic about Chris playing the drums. Let's hope they'll tour it!


Not only Chris Maitland, but they have Danny Thompson, Arran Ahmun (John Martyn) and  the string arrangements from Dave Gregory!!!!! This is a sweet surprise.

Any idea why they are waiting until the end of February,2012 to release?

 
Because no-one releases albums in December.  
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Quote from 4ctmam on 10. Dec 2011 at 11:22:
Excellent! I'm glad they finally finished it. And I'm nothing short of extatic about Chris playing the drums. Let's hope they'll tour it!

 
I think touring is quite unlikely with Marillion's schedule for the next 2 years. I'd love to see it happen though as the h band gigs of a few years back (featuring Richard and Aziz Ibrahim) were stunningly good.  
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Quote from Simon on 10. Dec 2011 at 23:53:
Quote from brian_sever34 on 10. Dec 2011 at 14:24:
Yeah!!!!

hope for a taste/sample soon.

Quote from 4ctmam on 10. Dec 2011 at 11:22:
Excellent! I'm glad they finally finished it. And I'm nothing short of extatic about Chris playing the drums. Let's hope they'll tour it!


Not only Chris Maitland, but they have Danny Thompson, Arran Ahmun (John Martyn) and  the string arrangements from Dave Gregory!!!!! This is a sweet surprise.

Any idea why they are waiting until the end of February,2012 to release?



Because no-one releases albums in December.

 
 
 Grin  Grin
 
probably true, but this is a list of releases from December 2010:
 
http://backseatsandbar.com/2011/01/06/top-album-releases-december-2010/
 
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Reply #9 - 11. Dec 2011 at 08:34
 
wow. great news!
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First I've heard about this project, sounds very cool! Looking forwards to it, especially with such a cool lineup.
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Quote from Roksoff on 10. Dec 2011 at 11:47:
Quote from Simon_LDT on 10. Dec 2011 at 11:29:
This sounds right up my street. Hoping for Vinyl please.  Smiley


Same here. Had no idea about this project, sounds interesting and exciting.

 
I didn't know about this, either. I'm very much looking forward to it, though. Smiley Great news!
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Reply #12 - 13. Dec 2011 at 13:55
 
It's been a long time coming but I'm confident that it's going to be worth the wait.
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Does anyone know if this will be released on vinyl?
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Does anyone know if this will be released on vinyl?

 
I'd say unlikely, at least initially.  
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Thanks, here's hoping  Sad
 
Anyway, pre order is up, first 1000 copies from Rackett Records will be signed by SH and RB.
Ordered.  Smiley
 
http://www.nottheweaponbutthehand.com/
 
samples sounds great, always liked Hogarth's voice and Barbieri's solo work.
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Bumped into Richard in the crowd at the Marillion Paradiso gig. It was a surreal moment for sure  Smiley
 
He was over catching up with SH and going over the artwork for the album. Said it was weird being in the audience for a change...
 
Naturally the subject did drift onto PT & touring etc...
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I listened to the samples above, and they were very engaging. I will be checking this one out.
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Naturally the subject did drift onto PT & touring etc...
 
 
 
anything you want to add ??
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I listened to the samples above, and they were very engaging. I will be checking this one out.

 
I did. Hope to make the first 1000.
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I did. Hope to make the first 1000.
 
 
Dont panic, it only went up for pre order today. Am sure they'll not have taken 1000 orders already.
 
Notice that all pre orders will be despatched 2 weeks before the release date.  Smiley
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Ordered a copy. Hoping for a vinyl release too.  Smiley
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I did. Hope to make the first 1000.  


Dont panic, it only went up for pre order today. Am sure they'll not have taken 1000 orders already.


 
I know, but don't underestimate the Marillion fans  Wink
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Ordered, it really sounds fresh, can't wait !
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It sounds... dull. Not at all what I was expecting.
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The samples sounded mighty fine to me.
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...so much so that I have also pre-ordered.
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Reply #27 - 20. Dec 2011 at 18:34
 
It is up for preorder at BS  Smiley
 
Steve Hogarth and Richard Barbieri - Not the Weapon But The Hand (cd in digibook preorder)
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Quote from brian_sever34 on 10. Dec 2011 at 14:24:


Not only Chris Maitland, but they have Danny Thompson, Arran Ahmun (John Martyn) and  the string arrangements from Dave Gregory!!!!! This is a sweet surprise.


Sure, it's a great team altogether. But what I meant was that it's very special since it's the first time in over a decade that Richard and Chris worked on some music together. I just think it's great that Richard decided to invite Chris to participate in this project.

 
 
 
 
Exactly - it's great to see Chris involved with this.    Maitland = he de man!  Cheesy
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intergalactic and  lift the lid  sound GFD ish
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Mr h posted a picture on Facebook of his goodself and Mr B  signing the first thousand copies today.  Cool
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Red Kite  
A Cat With Seven Souls  
Your Beautiful Face  
Only Love Will Make You Free  
Not the Weapon But The Hand  
 
All those tracks were played on Trójka (polish radio), they sounded pretty good. What is more, album will be released in Poland sooner than anywhere else (www.rockserwis.pl).
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Reply #33 - 30. Jan 2012 at 20:22
 
Okay, I'll try it.
It is a project where two of my favourite musicians are involved (RB and CM) so it deserves a fair chance.
I wipe away my prejudices. Maybe this singer isn't as bad as I remember.  
 
*Spending 7,5 minutes on nottheweaponbutthehand.com/*
 
Holy sh*t! That was tough. The first 15 seconds .... phew .... awesome vibrato, Steve. Brilliant intonation.  
 
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I have it in my hands now. It's a beautiful digibook!
Unfortunately, cannot listen to it right now.
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I have it in my hands now. It's a beautiful digibook!
Unfortunately, cannot listen to it right now.

 
Listening to it right now. Amazing album. For fans of Marillion and Richard. Received a signed copy, making it double special.  Wink
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Reply #36 - 08. Feb 2012 at 12:39
 
It looks like the first of the UK orders have been sent out... I got an email yesterday to say that my copy is on the way.  Cool
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Got a signed copy yesterday from Racket Records (I live in Dallas, TX). It was weird because I got the shipping confirmation from Racket two days ago, so it definitely shipped a lot sooner than two days ago.
 
Anyways, I have given it 3 spins and so far I love it! My favorite track is the title track so far along with Red Kite.
 
 
 
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I got the shipping confirmation two days after the CD!  
 
Anyway, I quite like the album. H tries to sing/be a bit different than in Marillion, and Richard sprinkles his usual magic.
I love the vocals in the beginning of "under the lid", it sounds really like something that's locked up and gets out for the first time in a long time. It matches the lyrics very well. I wish they had done more in this experimental vein.
 
Also cool is the rough approach for the many backing vocals in "Only Love can set you free". Quite different than the polished vocals in Marillion, but with a voice like that, not everything has to be polished.
 
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but with a voice like that, not everything has to be polished.  
 
 
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The rough approach to the backing vocals sounds interesting and different to Marillion's BVs.
"a voice like that" = a voice I like.
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Playing right now and pretty good so far.
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I guess I got it, although I can't understand it.  Wink
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Reply #43 - 14. Feb 2012 at 12:05
 
There seems to be a Massive Attack vibe to much of this album. It's odd that Mr Hogarth seems to be speaking rather than singing quite a lot of the vocals but I don't mind this... it adds to the atmosphere perfectly. Stand out tracks for me are "Red Kite", "A Cat With Seven Souls"and above all "Your Beautiful Face".  
The lyrics to "Only Love Will Set You Free" seem full of stale spiritual cliches but the track sounds so good that I don't care. I also love the ballsy attitude of "Crack".
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Reply #44 - 14. Feb 2012 at 13:35
 
I've only heard one track - the one featured on the Kscope Podcast. Think it was called Naked. It sounded interesting and different, but I can't say I particulally loved it.
 
I felt much the same about the few pieces of Richard's solo stuff that I have heard. Technically good, but no "Wow" factor.
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I've only heard one track - the one featured on the Kscope Podcast. Think it was called Naked. It sounded interesting and different, but I can't say I particulally loved it.

I felt much the same about the few pieces of Richard's solo stuff that I have heard. Technically good, but no "Wow" factor.

 
Don't let "Naked" put you off hearing the rest of the album bob. In my opinion it is by far the weakest track on there.
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Reply #46 - 17. Feb 2012 at 23:02
 
I thought that the 1st part was great but not so much the second. With more listens I am liking it a lot Cheesy
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