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Reply #25 - 10. Nov 2011 at 21:26
 
A reasonably priced boxset, might interest me.  But if this happens, I just think it will be INSANELY expensive.  Going by Headphonedust/Burninshed prices and the sheer number of albums/cds we are talking about.  Now if they licensed this out to a major record label, then the price might come down out of the stratosphere.
 
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Reply #26 - 12. Nov 2011 at 02:47
 
I haven't read all of the posts, but I believe the title to the thread should be SW hints at PT remasters w/less compression. Someone can correct me if they know I am wrong, but ALL recordings are compressed, sometimes several times. Basically they squash down the high end and cut off some of the low end. The recent prevailing trend is to master all recordings louder and louder, This means the range of the volume is loud to really loud instead of quiet to loud. Even vinyl is compressed music that is expanded (to some extent)  during playback.
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Reply #27 - 22. Dec 2011 at 16:43
 
Quote from Radtoy on 12. Nov 2011 at 02:47:
I haven't read all of the posts, but I believe the title to the thread should be SW hints at PT remasters w/less compression. Someone can correct me if they know I am wrong, but ALL recordings are compressed, sometimes several times. Basically they squash down the high end and cut off some of the low end. The recent prevailing trend is to master all recordings louder and louder, This means the range of the volume is loud to really loud instead of quiet to loud. Even vinyl is compressed music that is expanded (to some extent) áduring playback.

 
You're right about that. This is compression during mixing. If there was no compression on anything, things would sound weird, because we wouldn't be used to such dynamic range.  
 
However, the compression SW is referring to here is compression during mastering. This is usually done with a limiter, and squashes more gain into a smaller space, meaning a squashed sound and some clipping. Combine this with turning the gain up too high, and you get even more clipping (Hence the chorus of Open Car sounding very very fat, but a little squashed and with a little clipping).
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Reply #28 - 15. Feb 2012 at 22:21
 
And here they come! Taken from the SW Official Facebook page:
 
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A new 2LP vinyl edition of the third Porcupine Tree album "The Sky Moves Sideways" is now in stock at Burning Shed. This was a transitional album, with half of it made still in solo mode, and the other half beginning to integrate the band line up. Not the greatest album sonically (I was still finding my way and it was recorded on very harsh sounding early digital equipment at 16 bit), the 2012 vinyl edition at least now features the first of what I hope will be a series of "anti-loudness" remasters - in contrast to earlier editions, this one features hardly any compression (so it's much more dynamic) and also backs off most of the brightness and other EQ that was added to previous editions. It definitely sounds a little more listenable to me (-:
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Reply #29 - 15. Feb 2012 at 22:48
 
Quote from Pluto on 15. Feb 2012 at 22:21:
And here they come! Taken from the SW Official Facebook page:

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A new 2LP vinyl edition of the third Porcupine Tree album "The Sky Moves Sideways" is now in stock at Burning Shed. This was a transitional album, with half of it made still in solo mode, and the other half beginning to integrate the band line up. Not the greatest album sonically (I was still finding my way and it was recorded on very harsh sounding early digital equipment at 16 bit), the 2012 vinyl edition at least now features the first of what I hope will be a series of "anti-loudness" remasters - in contrast to earlier editions, this one features hardly any compression (so it's much more dynamic) and also backs off most of the brightness and other EQ that was added to previous editions. It definitely sounds a little more listenable to me (-:

 
Thanks for sharing. I saw he posted that, then deleted it.
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Reply #30 - 16. Feb 2012 at 00:07
 
Sounds excellent to me.
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Reply #31 - 16. Feb 2012 at 17:31
 
Great news! I've always thought that Dislocated Day, in particular, came off as quite harsh.
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Reply #32 - 16. Feb 2012 at 19:44
 
Quote from NC on 16. Feb 2012 at 17:31:
Great news! I've always thought that Dislocated Day, in particular, came off as quite harsh.

 
I agree. I find it too "in your face". Every instrument is too loud in the cd version and that saturates me. I like the song though and hope that the new mastering will make it more enjoyable for me.
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Reply #33 - 16. Feb 2012 at 22:18
 
I've always thought the 3 lp Delerium vinyl edition sounded great. Never had any issues at all.
Will be good to compare one against the other.
If its of the same ilk as Grace for Drowning then it should be a treat on the ears.
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Reply #34 - 17. Feb 2012 at 13:09
 
My copy was sent today! I bought it yesterday. Wow, that's fast! I'm really looking forward to having it here!  Smiley
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Reply #35 - 17. Feb 2012 at 21:28
 
Maybe I get on somebody┤s bad side by saying that I am happy with the quality of all PT albums up today, at least of those albums we got within the last ten years. For me it makes no sense to buy a remastered Deadwing or In Absentia album when there is no significant difference in comparison to the original version, regardless of listening to it by earphones attached to an iPod or over a hifi unit of average quality with average loudspeakers. This is for young PT fans who do not own the original album, or for hifi freaks who have just bought high end speakers. The inflational re-release of albums raises the suspicion that the aim is to sell things a second time. Do not misunderstand me; I think Steven is a perfectionist who has the intention to make completely perfect music, from the first to the last note. Let us hope all new albums will be of such a superb quality as the last three ones. But the albums they released before are not junk; so the target group is rather small, in my opinion.
 
By the way, I am convinced that blue-ray has an expiration date in about ten or fifteen years.
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