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Do you find the volume of sound at gigs deafening?
20. Nov 2009 at 18:42
 
Well, it's pretty self-explanatory. Personally, I feel like I've got tons of cotton in my ears after a rock gig, I wonder how SW's ears must be feeling... Smiley
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Reply #1 - 20. Nov 2009 at 18:45
 
Some are uber loud, but that's why God - or someone anyway - invented ear plugs - a good pair goes a LONG way!  Smiley  
 
 I don't mind the volume personally, but I still err on the side of caution.  I like to hear.   Wink
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Reply #2 - 20. Nov 2009 at 19:05
 
Scientifically, most concerts are too loud, and do damage hearing. At that decibel level, it's actually the prolonged exposure, not the shear volume itself that does it. Depending on the concert, I sometimes take plugs. As a musician trying to make some sort of career out of it, I'm not wasting my ears simply by sticking with the cool crowd and not wearing protection.
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Reply #3 - 20. Nov 2009 at 20:38
 
Well... I use earplugs. All the time.
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I just love that feeling in my ears after a very, veeery loud gig Smiley
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Quote from SkinnyPuppy91 on 20. Nov 2009 at 21:10:
I just love that feeling in my ears after a very, veeery loud gig
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Reply #7 - 20. Nov 2009 at 22:36
 
oooh I already start to notice that I'm kinda deaf-ish at sometimes Grin Grin
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Reply #8 - 20. Nov 2009 at 23:36
 
I have realised that since some years ago my ears ring a lot more. Not THAT much... but some. It was bad after the Lille gig of PT, also in Tilburg and the last HMH one too. I have used earplugs, but the loss of quality is so big...  undecided
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Reply #9 - 20. Nov 2009 at 23:39
 
Yes it is quite loud, but not necessarily in a bad way.
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Reply #10 - 21. Nov 2009 at 08:31
 
Quote from proggrl on 20. Nov 2009 at 18:45:
that's why God - or someone anyway - invented ear plugs
 
You know, I did take earplugs for an Isis gig I attended - not that it helped, anyway... Sad On the contrary, the plugs stuck into ears produced some kind of unpleasant pressure on the eardums, so I was compelled to finally take them out and bear on...
I wonder, do the musicians on stage feel the same kind of loudness or is it muffled due to the earphones they may wear or acoustics? What do you know of this?
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Reply #11 - 23. Nov 2009 at 14:37
 
I get used to it after 10 minutes, then I reckon it's the norm. :p
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Re: Do you find the volume of sound at gigs deafen
Reply #12 - 23. Nov 2009 at 16:58
 
I've only been to one concert and that was the PT show in Cleveland. I didn't need any ear plugs and my ears felt just fine afterwards.
 
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Reply #13 - 23. Nov 2009 at 19:50
 
there are so many sound variables to consider when at a gig ...
 
The type is music is one - a constant barrage of thrash noise will cause you more pain and discomfort at a gig if it is blasting out at a stupid volume and has been badly mixed from the desk.  Standing near a PA stack is NOT recommended either, although there are some that think this is THE place to be for full benefit!
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I think the loudest gig I can recall was It Bites in Glasgow Barrowlands many years ago - their volume was really on the pain threshold (yeah someone somewhere is gonna say no matter what the volume was, they sound painfull... Roll Eyes ).  But the volume was MASSIVE!!!  Strangely though, the mix was excellent and everything could be heard VERY well!!!
 
I saw Killing Joke at the ABC in Glasgow and left with my ears ringing - purely because the mix was so bad it was just a wall of noise!  No definition of sound at all.   The guitar was crashing away making a dischordant racket as the drums and bass just rumbled and thundered all around it.  Jaz Coleman's screams and shouts were somewhere in the mix but couldnt really be heard whilst the clatter was going on around him.  The volume wasn't that bad, it was just noise, that's all.
 
As for the musicians on stage being affected, bear in mind that many of them now use in-ear-monitor systems and this helps eliminate some of the sound frmo the PA, which incidentally you may have noticed they are BEHIND, so they are not getting the amount of volume on stage that we, the audience, hear up front.  In fact, it would surprise many people to find out how lillte sound frmo the PA actually bleeds over onto the stage and affects the musicians - the worst thing there is bounce-back of sound from the hall or wherever...
 
 
In answer to the main question though, if it is too loud, move further back!  Simple!  You should be able to find a place where you can see the band AND hear them confortably.  Not everyone needs to be as close to the stage or PA as possible to actually hear, see and fully enjoy a show.
 
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Reply #14 - 24. Nov 2009 at 13:04
 
That's why I bring ear plugs to every gig!  Smiley A good set of musician's earplugs can go a long way.
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Smiley Smiley
I remember being at the very back of a 2,000-2,500 capacity hall and and the sound was still too strong at times...
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As for the musicians on stage being affected, bear in mind that many of them now use in-ear-monitor systems and this helps eliminate some of the sound frmo the PA, which incidentally you may have noticed they are BEHIND, so they are not getting the amount of volume on stage that we, the audience, hear up front. In fact, it would surprise many people to find out how lillte sound frmo the PA actually bleeds over onto the stage and affects the musicians - the worst thing there is bounce-back of sound from the hall or wherever...
 
 
Quite right there...I've been on the front row at gigs when all I could hear is drums & bass from the stage monitors and backline - because the PA was actually behind me...also weird when you hear the drums from the stage without any amplification...sounds so tinny and weak...
 
As for loudest gigs...Mega City Four in Inverness about 20 years ago was definately the loudest i'd experienced...well into the pain level. Took about 2 or 3 days for the ringing and muffled feeling to leave. Definately over the last year or so I've noticed a slight loss in hearing, particularly in among groups of people in pubs / clubs where there is a lot of background noise. As a result I bought earplugs earlier this year and now take them to every gig without fail. The Alpine ones I have filter out a lot of the distortion and fuzz and I actually prefer wearing them now...helped a lot at HMH in Oct when we were right in front of a speaker - the sound was perfectly clear but just too loud there.
 
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Reply #17 - 25. Nov 2009 at 02:46
 
Some are too loud. Depends on the venue and the band. I thought The Incident was a little above normal.
 
During the Deadwing tour I saw them in this little club and it was extremely loud. My ears rang for nearly 3 days.  Then I got hearing aids. Not because of PT obviously, it was a long decline. Now I don't wear ear plugs, I just turn off my hearing aids.
 
Not to preach, but from someone who wears hearing aids from excessive noise exposure, concerts included, wear ear plugs. It might catch up with you one day. The problem is you don't have sudden loss, get aids, and thats it. The loss continues, hopefully at a reduced pace because you actually listened to your doctor. Mine continues to decline (and I do listen to him). Slowly, but I sometimes wonder if 10 years from now I will be screwed, no more shows. Its a real pain. Don't mess around with your hearing!!!
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Quote from Scots Pine on 24. Nov 2009 at 20:17:
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And do you happen to know if there's a best material for the plugs to be made of or a best form? Thanks Smiley
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Reply #19 - 25. Nov 2009 at 12:22
 
I have been going to see bands since I was a teenager, and, yes, that was a long time ago. My ex was in a really loud metal band and I used to go to gigs and rehearsals regularly!!! I have never worn ear plugs and I must admit that I do now have some degree of hearing loss which is why I would advise my kids (one of whom is a metal fan who goes to lots of gigs AND plays bass) to wear earplugs - not that they listen to me!! So there you go kids!!
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It's not a question if one FINDS the volume levels at gigs deafening, they simply are, most rock concerts are so loud that they WILL damage your hearing within minutes. The damage might be small , but repeated exposure can accumulate to  severe deafness or tinitus at a very young age.
A recent survey indicated that many young people have the hearing of a 60-70 year old, which might sound funny when you're 15 years old, but isn't quite so funny anymore when a few years later, you realise you have to rely on the same ears for another 60 to 70 years, and presumably would like to use them to enjoy more music.  
The last PT concert I attended was so loud that drum-hits didn't register as sound, but as pain, these sound levels can cause instant hearing damage, even complete deafness.
I won't be visiting any more rock concerts because of this, since i find wearing earplugs much to uncomfortable, AND i finf it completely crazy to wear earplugs to a concert: Imagine they'd turn up the brightness in a movie theatre so much that you'd have to wear welding-goggles to prevent you from going blind?
 
I've sayd it before and i'll say it again: If Steven Wilson is so concerned about young people and music, why is he exposing his own fans to these ludicrous sound levels, damaging the "instruments" people need to enjoy music?
 
@clouds41: Have you consulted your doctor about switching off your hearing aid at concerts instead of wearing earplugs? I would think this way you are still causing damage to your ears; The sound is still loud enough to destroy the  hair cells you have left,  you just don't hear it anymore....
You may actually be at a greater risk because of this.
 
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Quote from TAKO on 25. Nov 2009 at 13:35:
he last PT concert I attended was so loud that drum-hits didn't register as sound, but as pain
 
Apparently, it's very close to what I experienced at the PT gig I attended as well... Quite sad undecided
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Reply #22 - 27. Nov 2009 at 05:00
 
Surprisingly enough, when I went to see Coldplay this June, the sound was incredibly loud. They were louder than Rush, who were pretty damn loud!  Shocked Makes me wonder if the newer bands are trying to compete with each other in terms of 'loudness.'
 
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Reply #24 - 27. Nov 2009 at 21:19
 
Not at all....the louder the better!
 
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Well...
 
It's not really that much a matter of volume but the quality of the sound and the mix. For instance, the Genesis gig in Katowice/Chorzow was very loud but the sound was very clear and well-ballanced. I hate it when I just get a loud noise (which sometimes happen at PT gigs unfortunately).
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Quote from TAKO on 25. Nov 2009 at 13:35:
@clouds41: Have you consulted your doctor about switching off your hearing aid at concerts instead of wearing earplugs? I would think this way you are still causing damage to your ears; The sound is still loud enough to destroy the  hair cells you have left,  you just don't hear it anymore....
You may actually be at a greater risk because of this.  
 
 
No. I am sure you are probably correct. Depending on the venue though, earplugs for me totally ruin the sound as my hearing is already so far gone. I may as well not go. I have begun to think seeing shows in smaller clubs is probably not in my best interest anymore. I saw PT in Toronto, Queen E Theater, I did not find it to be overly loud, I had no ringing afterwards. Probably because I sat in the balcony.
 
I saw Opeth in a club in Toronto this year, that was bad (the show was about my favorite ever), WAY too loud. Also saw Dredg in a very small club, also WAY too loud.  
 
It really stinks. What to do? I love going to concerts. The smaller venues are often the best...
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It's not really that much a matter of volume but the quality of the sound and the mix. For instance, the Genesis gig in Katowice/Chorzow was very loud but the sound was very clear and well-ballanced. I hate it when I just get a loud noise (which sometimes happen at PT gigs unfortunately).

 
Agreed. I saw Pink Floyd years ago. The sound quality was amazing, and never too loud. Perfect. I have also seen The Moody Blues and Yes and they are the same, excellent quality over volume.
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Depends on the show. Typically, Opeth and PT get it just right, for me at least, although PT's Incident stuff was little louder than I expected.
 
The Cult's "reunion" tour of 2006 had some of the loudest shows ever. Isis was the same way earlier this year.  
 
I prefer the concerts to not be as loud for three reasons:
1. I want to preserve my hearing, which is currently in decent shape,
2. I want to be able to hear the musical intricacies, and
3. I haven't found earplugs that only turn the volume down, without pretty much isolating an instrument.  
 
Louder concerts with earplugs are generally fine if you're listening to some straight forward hard rock or punk with simpler arrangements, but I do think that some of the "progressive" bands should turn down the volume some so that everyone can enjoy the music better, as complex arrangements when played really loud often turn into noise.
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I am going to have to use the earplugs in the remaining shows. I have a ringing in my left ear that has been there since Amsterdam, and increased after Madrid and BCN... undecided
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Quote from voyage72 on 03. Dec 2009 at 15:46:
I am going to have to use the earplugs in the remaining shows. I have a ringing in my left ear that has been there since Amsterdam, and increased after Madrid and BCN... undecided

 
I wear earplugs since the Paradiso shows 2006...and the name is Alpine Partyplugs...
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Quote from voyage72 on 03. Dec 2009 at 15:46:
I am going to have to use the earplugs in the remaining shows. I have a ringing in my left ear that has been there since Amsterdam, and increased after Madrid and BCN... undecided

 
That was a loud one...loudest of the 5 we saw in Oct...mind you there was a speaker right in front of us Wink
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Reply #33 - 04. Dec 2009 at 09:04
 
it obviously depends on the venue and the band but i find myself hardly ever being deafened at gigs any more. i think that's just because my ears are screwed due to the large number of gigs i have been to down the years where i got regularly deafened in small places like the astoria and the marquee club. i do also think that some bands, especially those whose music is quite complex like pt or mastodon are sacraficing a bit of volume to try and maintain the clarity of their music.
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Quote from Scots Pine on 04. Dec 2009 at 00:42:
That was a loud one...loudest of the 5 we saw in Oct...mind you there was a speaker right in front of us
 
 
Yep that speaker was the one that totally killed me! cry
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Not any more...whether thats down to my hearing going downhill or better mixing I don't know!Havent had any ringing in my ears for a while now, no not even after the HMH  
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Not any more...whether thats down to my hearing going downhill or better mixing I don't know!Havent had any ringing in my ears for a while now, no not even after the HMH

 
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Reply #37 - 10. Dec 2009 at 09:45
 
There was only one time where it ever bothered me. It was at an Opeth show in '05 at the House of Blues in Chicago. My ears rang for literally a week after that.
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Ask someone who's been to a Sunn O))) gig; I've heard they play bloody loud. Even the tough ones have to give in and use ear plugs.
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Reply #39 - 13. Dec 2009 at 22:51
 
I haven´t been to many concerts, but PT played much louder than Nine Inch Nails did in the HMH. Didn´t have any ringing ears, tough. I was either lucky or already have bad hearing. Tongue
 
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I'm not a big fan, but they know how to put up a show.
 
It all depends on the sound guy the band has hired. If the guy already is practically deaf, he'll make sure you will be aswell.
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Quote from parashizzle on 13. Dec 2009 at 22:51:

The loudest I've heard a band play was Eagles Of Death Metal at Lowlands festival. It made a friend of mine puke.

 
Sure, I'd blame loud music too, if I puked my guts out in front of a live audience  Grin
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It all depends on the sound guy the band has hired. If the guy already is practically deaf, he'll make sure you will be aswell.
 
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Reply #42 - 15. Dec 2009 at 12:56
 
Sometimes - after Tangerine Dream my head was funny for a couple of days, which is worse than normal.  It was probably no louder than standing right in front of Mr. Edwin, but it was the non-stop aural assault that did the damage - there was no respite.
 
I quite like the numb feeling in my head after a PT gig  Grin.
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Reply #43 - 26. Dec 2009 at 05:10
 
99% of the time I wear ear plugs....unfortunately for the last PT fall '09 tour.....i went to three shows not wearing them. And my ears still ring today, I definitely got a minor case of tinnitus from those three concerts. But the music does sound 100 times clearer and better without ear plugs compared to wearing them. But even at PT shows I will continue to wear ear plugs.
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It varies.  Like most of you say, depends on the quality of the sound not the volume.
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Proper plugs only 'round off' the shrillness of some frequencies and you tend to lose quality of sound. There are musicians plugs that work great! The doc actually makes them fit to your own ear and you wait for them to be made custom just for your head... They only round off about 5-10dB, but the frequencies that make your head ring or rattle your eardrums (or make you puke in one case above! Grin) are eliminated.
 
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I just love that feeling in my ears after a very, veeery loud gig Smiley

I've been using earplugs since before I graduated from college, even on the el and on planes.  My logic is this:  I'd rather use my hearing gradually over the course of my entire life than all at once.  I have a $350 pair that is custom-molded to my ears and the filters are removable so you can clean the soft plastic part.  I lucked out, I guess you could say, by being rained on with shattered glass at the second-last show I attended in Chicago before moving to Nashville; the venue's insurance paid for me to go to an ENT doctor to get them.  (Some drunk idiot who'd been kicked out after trying to fiddle with the sound board during the set break came back and threw bricks through the windows in an "I'll show you" fit of immaturity, and I got rained on with the glass.  Some other poor dude got hit with the brick!)
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Proper plugs only 'round off' the shrillness of some frequencies and you tend to lose quality of sound. There are musicians plugs that work great! The doc actually makes them fit to your own ear and you wait for them to be made custom just for your head... They only round off about 5-10dB, but the frequencies that make your head ring or rattle your eardrums (or make you puke in one case above! Grin) are eliminated.

Any bit helps though when you are 15 feet from a Marshall full stack cranked up to 10!  Wink

 
I saw my audiologist today for a check-up, unfortunately my hearing continues to decline. I am going to Opeth in NYC and PT in Buffalo so I asked about these plugs and ordered a pair for $160!! Wow. Hope I never lose them.
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Took my new plugs to Opeth in NYC. Put them in for the first song, took them out after the first song. Concert wasn't loud enough to overcome the plugs! I left with no ringing.
 
I will try them again at PT next month.
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PT, on the other hand, was perfect in terms of volume. Not too loud, and not too soft.
 
 
Yeah, I've found PT to be at a comfortable level the last two times I saw them.  Bigelf on the other hand... I had earplugs in for the entirety of their set and my ears were still ringing.
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Yeah, I've found PT to be at a comfortable level the last two times I saw them. Bigelf on the other hand... I had earplugs in for the entirety of their set and my ears were still ringing.
 
 
So even with earplugs, ears do ring?  Huh
 
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The only time I remember my ears ringing at a gig was when I saw Long-view @ The Ritz in Manchester. Stood at the front with the stack just to my right. Seem to remember feeling my lungs rattling inside my ribcage too  Grin
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Reply #52 - 25. Apr 2010 at 12:35
 
I did the silliest thing for the PT concert in Melbourne in February...
 
Having been warned that PT can be loud and that Sleep Parade were louder, I packed some cheap little earplugs in my luggage for the trip. Having been so well prepared, I then forgot to take them to the concert.  lips sealed
 
As soon as Sleep Parade began playing, I realised I wanted them and didn't have them.  
 
Fortunately I managed to get through their set without losing my hearing, though I did find myself cupping my hands over my ears a couple of times. And although the main act were a bit louder than I deem necessary, they were a good deal quieter than Sleep Parade, who must rate as the most unaptly named band in the country.
 
I went to a gay nightclub last Saturday and the music was horribly loud, and was a good deal worse than Sleep Parade. It was also louder than I remember it being at that same club from previous visits, which makes me think the sound engineer is a fan of AC/DC. Or, possibly, Sleep Parade.
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I voted "Normal" but I'm definitely moving towards too loud.
 
I've usually been lucky with buying tickets to seated events with close seats or for GA I line up and get up close and I'm really starting to find things too loud. When I started going to concerts a few years ago I didn't have a problem but now it's definitely getting too loud. I've tried ear plugs at one show but didn't really enjoy it as much . . . . . .
 
My biggest problem is that after the show ends I spend the next 2 hours with the most insane head splitting headache undecided, especially bad this time of year with the heat. I don't know whether it's the noise, the lack of food, water, crowd or what (probably all of the above actually) but it's pretty brutal every time.
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I found PT volume quite right. But..... I've been going to gigs for several years and possibly I'm loosing my hearing.  Huh
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I have a question about this:
 
I am going to a concert next weekend; there are three bands on, so there is a good chance that one or more of them will play very loud. I have some earplugs that were very cheap - all they are is little peices of foam that you push into yur ears.
 
My question, to anyone who knows about these things, is: are these likely to do the job, or should I invest in something a bit more sophisticated? Are there earplugs and earplugs?
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I don't really mind high volume at gigs. But after the Skinny Puppy gig I felt it was a bit too high. It hurt.  Tongue But it didn't matter while they wre on. Hehehe.
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I don't really mind high volume at gigs. But after the Skinny Puppy gig I felt it was a bit too high. It hurt.  Tongue But it didn't matter while they wre on. Hehehe.

that's always with Skinny Puppy.
I remember someone posted a picture of a sign that said that the sound would be louder than other concerts
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That's not really shocking.  Grin
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The foam-things kill the high frequencies. If you want to hear the whole spectrum, you have to spend more money.
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The foam-things kill the high frequencies. If you want to hear the whole spectrum, you have to spend more money.
Unfurtunately in german, but an overview:

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I bought a pair of musician plugs from my audiologist. I have tried them twice and both times elected to take them out. I need to get the filters for them that allow a higher decible to come through. I suppose it could be that my hearing loss is to great already and the plugs would work great for those with normal or better hearing. They were a small investment, thankfully I can use them to mow the lawn and when using power tools so they were not a total waste.
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The foam-things kill the high frequencies. If you want to hear the whole spectrum, you have to spend more money.
Unfurtunately in german, but an overview:

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Update:
 
I asked the attendant at a pharmacy about various kinds of earplugs, but it soon became clear that he knew less than I did about the issue. Example: He thought a rating of 27dB might mean that 27dB was the maximum level that the plugs would allow to reach your ears. (In fact of course it's the amount by which the sound is reduced.)
 
I elected to take my existing cheap foam ones (rated at 27dB) just in case I needed them, and not stress about whether I was missing the full sound spectrum.
 
When the bands took to the stage I did indeed find the volume a bit painful, so I put the plugs in. I immediately noticed a change in the timbre of the sound as well as the volume. I wouldn't say it sounded better or worse, just different. It didn't stop me from enjoying the music though, and in the case of Midnight Juggernauts, whose tunes I was already familiar with, I couldn't pick any deficiencies over what I hear on the CD. Moreover, after the concert my ears were not ringing.
 
So yes, I would use them again, they seem a pretty cheap and sensible investment in safety.
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Hmm. I'm kinda afraid of earplugs. I know a person who used earplugs when she was sleeping. And then when she woke up it had broken into two pieces and half of it had gotten way into her ear. She had to go to the doctor.
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Hmm. I'm kinda afraid of earplugs. I know a person who used earplugs when she was sleeping. And then when she woke up it had broken into two pieces and half of it had gotten way into her ear. She had to go to the doctor.

And a guy at my work had bad hearing for 10 years. After a visit to the doctor it turned out he had a piece of an earplug stuck in there. Stupidity at its best.  Cool
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Quote from CutRibbon on 07. Sep 2010 at 00:37:
Hmm. I'm kinda afraid of earplugs. I know a person who used earplugs when she was sleeping. And then when she woke up it had broken into two pieces and half of it had gotten way into her ear. She had to go to the doctor.

 
My little foam ones are just a simple cylinder shape, so I imagine there could be a problem with that. It wasn't going to worry me though, since I was only using them for a concert rather than sleeping with them in my ears.
 
Aren't there some slightly fancy ones that have an inner part that sticks in your ear and does the job of reducing the sound level, and a larger outer part that prevents the whole thing from going in? Sort of like a dummy, but to fit an ear instead of a mouth?
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