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Question: Do you find the volume of sound at gigs deafening?

It's deafening, definitely
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It's too low
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Do you find the volume of sound at gigs deafening?
20. Nov 2009 at 18:42
 
Well, it's pretty self-explanatory. Personally, I feel like I've got tons of cotton in my ears after a rock gig, I wonder how SW's ears must be feeling... Smiley
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Reply #1 - 20. Nov 2009 at 18:45
 
Some are uber loud, but that's why God - or someone anyway - invented ear plugs - a good pair goes a LONG way!  Smiley  
 
 I don't mind the volume personally, but I still err on the side of caution.  I like to hear.   Wink
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Reply #2 - 20. Nov 2009 at 19:05
 
Scientifically, most concerts are too loud, and do damage hearing. At that decibel level, it's actually the prolonged exposure, not the shear volume itself that does it. Depending on the concert, I sometimes take plugs. As a musician trying to make some sort of career out of it, I'm not wasting my ears simply by sticking with the cool crowd and not wearing protection.
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Reply #3 - 20. Nov 2009 at 20:38
 
Well... I use earplugs. All the time.
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Reply #5 - 20. Nov 2009 at 21:10
 
I just love that feeling in my ears after a very, veeery loud gig Smiley
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Reply #6 - 20. Nov 2009 at 21:15
 
Quote from SkinnyPuppy91 on 20. Nov 2009 at 21:10:
I just love that feeling in my ears after a very, veeery loud gig
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Reply #7 - 20. Nov 2009 at 22:36
 
oooh I already start to notice that I'm kinda deaf-ish at sometimes Grin Grin
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Reply #8 - 20. Nov 2009 at 23:36
 
I have realised that since some years ago my ears ring a lot more. Not THAT much... but some. It was bad after the Lille gig of PT, also in Tilburg and the last HMH one too. I have used earplugs, but the loss of quality is so big...  undecided
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Reply #9 - 20. Nov 2009 at 23:39
 
Yes it is quite loud, but not necessarily in a bad way.
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Reply #10 - 21. Nov 2009 at 08:31
 
Quote from proggrl on 20. Nov 2009 at 18:45:
that's why God - or someone anyway - invented ear plugs
 
You know, I did take earplugs for an Isis gig I attended - not that it helped, anyway... Sad On the contrary, the plugs stuck into ears produced some kind of unpleasant pressure on the eardums, so I was compelled to finally take them out and bear on...
I wonder, do the musicians on stage feel the same kind of loudness or is it muffled due to the earphones they may wear or acoustics? What do you know of this?
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Reply #11 - 23. Nov 2009 at 14:37
 
I get used to it after 10 minutes, then I reckon it's the norm. :p
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Reply #12 - 23. Nov 2009 at 16:58
 
I've only been to one concert and that was the PT show in Cleveland. I didn't need any ear plugs and my ears felt just fine afterwards.
 
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Reply #13 - 23. Nov 2009 at 19:50
 
there are so many sound variables to consider when at a gig ...
 
The type is music is one - a constant barrage of thrash noise will cause you more pain and discomfort at a gig if it is blasting out at a stupid volume and has been badly mixed from the desk. Standing near a PA stack is NOT recommended either, although there are some that think this is THE place to be for full benefit!
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I think the loudest gig I can recall was It Bites in Glasgow Barrowlands many years ago - their volume was really on the pain threshold (yeah someone somewhere is gonna say no matter what the volume was, they sound painfull... Roll Eyes ). But the volume was MASSIVE!!! Strangely though, the mix was excellent and everything could be heard VERY well!!!
 
I saw Killing Joke at the ABC in Glasgow and left with my ears ringing - purely because the mix was so bad it was just a wall of noise! No definition of sound at all. The guitar was crashing away making a dischordant racket as the drums and bass just rumbled and thundered all around it. Jaz Coleman's screams and shouts were somewhere in the mix but couldnt really be heard whilst the clatter was going on around him. The volume wasn't that bad, it was just noise, that's all.
 
As for the musicians on stage being affected, bear in mind that many of them now use in-ear-monitor systems and this helps eliminate some of the sound frmo the PA, which incidentally you may have noticed they are BEHIND, so they are not getting the amount of volume on stage that we, the audience, hear up front. In fact, it would surprise many people to find out how lillte sound frmo the PA actually bleeds over onto the stage and affects the musicians - the worst thing there is bounce-back of sound from the hall or wherever...
 
 
In answer to the main question though, if it is too loud, move further back! Simple! You should be able to find a place where you can see the band AND hear them confortably. Not everyone needs to be as close to the stage or PA as possible to actually hear, see and fully enjoy a show.
 
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Reply #14 - 24. Nov 2009 at 13:04
 
That's why I bring ear plugs to every gig!  Smiley A good set of musician's earplugs can go a long way.
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Smiley Smiley
I remember being at the very back of a 2,000-2,500 capacity hall and and the sound was still too strong at times...
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As for the musicians on stage being affected, bear in mind that many of them now use in-ear-monitor systems and this helps eliminate some of the sound frmo the PA, which incidentally you may have noticed they are BEHIND, so they are not getting the amount of volume on stage that we, the audience, hear up front. In fact, it would surprise many people to find out how lillte sound frmo the PA actually bleeds over onto the stage and affects the musicians - the worst thing there is bounce-back of sound from the hall or wherever...
 
 
Quite right there...I've been on the front row at gigs when all I could hear is drums & bass from the stage monitors and backline - because the PA was actually behind me...also weird when you hear the drums from the stage without any amplification...sounds so tinny and weak...
 
As for loudest gigs...Mega City Four in Inverness about 20 years ago was definately the loudest i'd experienced...well into the pain level. Took about 2 or 3 days for the ringing and muffled feeling to leave. Definately over the last year or so I've noticed a slight loss in hearing, particularly in among groups of people in pubs / clubs where there is a lot of background noise. As a result I bought earplugs earlier this year and now take them to every gig without fail. The Alpine ones I have filter out a lot of the distortion and fuzz and I actually prefer wearing them now...helped a lot at HMH in Oct when we were right in front of a speaker - the sound was perfectly clear but just too loud there.
 
So, youngsters - look after your hearing - you don't get a second chance  Wink
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Reply #17 - 25. Nov 2009 at 02:46
 
Some are too loud. Depends on the venue and the band. I thought The Incident was a little above normal.
 
During the Deadwing tour I saw them in this little club and it was extremely loud. My ears rang for nearly 3 days.  Then I got hearing aids. Not because of PT obviously, it was a long decline. Now I don't wear ear plugs, I just turn off my hearing aids.
 
Not to preach, but from someone who wears hearing aids from excessive noise exposure, concerts included, wear ear plugs. It might catch up with you one day. The problem is you don't have sudden loss, get aids, and thats it. The loss continues, hopefully at a reduced pace because you actually listened to your doctor. Mine continues to decline (and I do listen to him). Slowly, but I sometimes wonder if 10 years from now I will be screwed, no more shows. Its a real pain. Don't mess around with your hearing!!!
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And do you happen to know if there's a best material for the plugs to be made of or a best form? Thanks Smiley
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Reply #19 - 25. Nov 2009 at 12:22
 
I have been going to see bands since I was a teenager, and, yes, that was a long time ago. My ex was in a really loud metal band and I used to go to gigs and rehearsals regularly!!! I have never worn ear plugs and I must admit that I do now have some degree of hearing loss which is why I would advise my kids (one of whom is a metal fan who goes to lots of gigs AND plays bass) to wear earplugs - not that they listen to me!! So there you go kids!!
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Reply #20 - 25. Nov 2009 at 13:35
 
It's not a question if one FINDS the volume levels at gigs deafening, they simply are, most rock concerts are so loud that they WILL damage your hearing within minutes. The damage might be small , but repeated exposure can accumulate to severe deafness or tinitus at a very young age.
A recent survey indicated that many young people have the hearing of a 60-70 year old, which might sound funny when you're 15 years old, but isn't quite so funny anymore when a few years later, you realise you have to rely on the same ears for another 60 to 70 years, and presumably would like to use them to enjoy more music.  
The last PT concert I attended was so loud that drum-hits didn't register as sound, but as pain, these sound levels can cause instant hearing damage, even complete deafness.
I won't be visiting any more rock concerts because of this, since i find wearing earplugs much to uncomfortable, AND i finf it completely crazy to wear earplugs to a concert: Imagine they'd turn up the brightness in a movie theatre so much that you'd have to wear welding-goggles to prevent you from going blind?
 
I've sayd it before and i'll say it again: If Steven Wilson is so concerned about young people and music, why is he exposing his own fans to these ludicrous sound levels, damaging the "instruments" people need to enjoy music?
 
@clouds41: Have you consulted your doctor about switching off your hearing aid at concerts instead of wearing earplugs? I would think this way you are still causing damage to your ears; The sound is still loud enough to destroy the hair cells you have left, you just don't hear it anymore....
You may actually be at a greater risk because of this.
 
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Quote from TAKO on 25. Nov 2009 at 13:35:
he last PT concert I attended was so loud that drum-hits didn't register as sound, but as pain
 
Apparently, it's very close to what I experienced at the PT gig I attended as well... Quite sad undecided
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Reply #22 - 27. Nov 2009 at 05:00
 
Surprisingly enough, when I went to see Coldplay this June, the sound was incredibly loud. They were louder than Rush, who were pretty damn loud!  Shocked Makes me wonder if the newer bands are trying to compete with each other in terms of 'loudness.'
 
PT, on the other hand, was perfect in terms of volume. Not too loud, and not too soft.
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coldplay + loud?
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Reply #24 - 27. Nov 2009 at 21:19
 
Not at all....the louder the better!
 
Of course we must consider location and distortion.
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